Aaron is a father of Noah, a three year old and at the time of recording was on the verge, literally, of new child, a boy. They had a scare the night before and thought it was time, but proved to be a false alarm.
This is great news for Aaron and his wife as they have struggled to have children and have worked through the IVF program. This interview dives into IVF and Aaron has some good insight for people thinking about undertaking the journey.
Aaron, previously in the finance industry, got out 13 years ago moved to work with Emergency Services Telecommunications Authority – what you know as 000. He’s one of the guys and girls who answer the phone when the shit is going down. We get some great stories here too. Enjoy.
ADAM BALDOCK: Okay, get us on the way, and we’re away. Hey dad’s of the world, great to have you with me again, for another episode of the number one Dad pod cast on the Internet. I’m pumped to have today’s guest an inspiring dad, Aaron White with us. Aaron is a father of one at the moment but has another one very close to being on the way. Noah, his three-year old and a – almost point zero is hoped for the arrival will be on the next day or two. Previously, Aaron was in the finance industry and 13 years ago he transitioned over to Australia’s emergency services telecommunications authority or what you probably know as Triple Zero. I am looking forward to some great stories from Aaron and I am hoping that we don’t get interrupted by the arrival of a second while we have this chat, but welcome to the show, Aaron White.
AARON WHITE: Thanks very much Adam. I’m glad to be here and I’m glad to speak to you about everything that’s going on. It’ a definitely imminent thing so I do apologise if we do get interrupted.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, no problems mate. We can always come back and have a chat on another day. More important things are the youngsters so fantastic. So, I’ve given a little bit insight into you, tell us a little bit more about the family.
AARON WHITE: So as you’ve mentioned I’ve got Noah my three-year old and my wife Corinna. We’ve been together now for nearly 10 years. Noah’s our little IVF baby. Noah was born to this world through IVF after we were told we were unable to have children naturally. Luckily this time around though that second one is a natural child …
ADAM BALDOCK: Brilliant.
AARON WHITE: … as such. We’re a typical little family. We love each other very much and juts have a great fun around the day as best as we can.
ADAM BALDOCK: Excellent mate. Now, you’ve touched n a subject that you know I am just going to go ahead and get deep diving into it because you hit the subject that we haven’t touched on here at Fired Up Dads before which is the IVF. And you and I were talking pre-recording about some of the trials and tribulations of that. It look like it sounds like it was a challenge mate. So take us through it and take us through right from the start. How did it all start out that you found out that you needed to do IVF and what was the process?
AARON WHITE: So we were like every other mum and dad that all want to be mum and dad thinking that it will just all happen naturally. We had a few difficulties obviously and spoke with our local GP’s and go referrals and then after some investigation we were told that it had to be through IVF. The IVF process is very long, tedious, and it just mentally taxing on anybody both husband and wife.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, okay so –
AARON WHITE: Ever wanted to be.
ADAM BALDOCK: So tell us a bit more about that. What makes it mentally taxing?
AARON WHITE: So there’s all the emotional highs and lows of – is this just the $10,000 gamble? You sit there waiting for the results of that blood test after going through all the medicines all the psychology appointments through the day to day appointments with nurses. Have you had the medications on the right dose, have you got everything, all the timing right? You miss one timing and that can blow the entire thing. So to sit there and wait for that $10,000 blood test is such its quite taxing.
ADAM BALDOCK: Wow. So and this is the general process that the – is it through public health system or is it through private?
AARON WHITE: Uh, no there is a public health option but it’s quite a lengthy wait time but most of it is private. Here in Victoria unfortunately – luckily in some states they get a few trials for free in other countries they get a tenth of the nothing but here in Victoria it’s pay from the onset unfortunately so it’s a big cost upfront but when you just want to be a dad you’d give your arm and your leg for it.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, yeah absolutely, absolutely. Yeah I mean you know $10,000 sounds a lot of money but in the scheme of things it’s probably not but you know it is a lot of money for people that don’t have it and as you said efforts are – would you put $10,000 on another gamble is the question you know? Because if you don’t get the result you want it’s –
AARON WHITE: Yeah, probably not. Look, we were very fortunate we know some of the families and being a part of another group we know some people that have gone through hundreds of thousands of dollars and unfortunately haven’t had the success that we did on the first attempt. So we’ve very blessed to have Noah come around the first shot so.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic mate yeah. And that’s great news. And the new one was a natural made so brilliant.
AARON WHITE: Yes. Well corner of extension as well it cost me another procedure of trip but that’s all right.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, well you know once you’re married that’s pretty much what you got to do to get some action isn’t it?
AARON WHITE: Yeah, exactly right. Spot on.
ADAM BALDOCK: You get them overseas and nice romantic locations and things like that you know?
AARON WHITE: Exactly right. Paris, Bali, London, anywhere.
ADAM BALDOCK: Absolutely, absolutely. I knew there was a reason I hadn’t had action for a while. All right.
AARON WHITE: Get to Europe, get to Europe.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, as soon as were finished I’ll get on the travel agent website, brilliant. Good stuff mate. So and well done to you and your wife I’m sure it was a hardcore process and journey for you but I am pleased it had a great result. So, now that you are a dad after going through all that process, tell me about what type of father you are?
AARON WHITE: I’d like to think as myself as just an everyday father. I’m the one that – I want to have the discipline for my son and to be bringing him up with manners and all those sorts of things like every father does. But then on the other side I am also the joker in the house. Sometimes my wife is adamant that she’s got two three year olds in the house. I am the one’s that like to run amuck and take him and show him how to do things, exploring the garden do simple things around the house. Some of the things that I should probably have been better at earlier on now waiting until I became a dad. But yeah, I’m just your everyday run of the mill father in my eyes and I look up to my own father and see a lot of myself in him.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, yeah. I don’t think Noah sees you as the run of the mill father but you know it’s good that you’re quite humble about it on that front. But in the other day that I have interviewed I am pleased to hear that you are the joker because a number of the other dads that have interviewed have actually spoken about you need to be the joker in the house in a lot of instances because mum can be a bit serious from time to time and it can be a serious environment. So, good work.
AARON WHITE: Yeah, definitely.
ADAM BALDOCK: Excellent. So, tell us about that transition now that after all the IVF and the relief that you were with child how was the transition between not being a dad and becoming a dad?
AARON WHITE: It was massive. It was a massive culture shock for me. You know I was your typical bloke one who would go out with the boys on a weekend, go watch a footy, have a few beers you know even got to the races or just hang around, go out and do those sorts of things. The responsibility of becoming a dad the moment that I laid eyes on him, as soon as he came out it was my whole world went upside down in a flash. So the transition has been a struggle and I probably struggled with it for a bit whereas my wife she’s just a natural with it. She’s an absolute star in my eyes. So she’s very much the rock of the household so to speak and she just adjusted to it like no one whereas myself I had a big transition into it having to be a dad is the most important thing and probably the biggest struggle that I had.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, look I had a similar experience as well lots of struggles. But for you what were the exact struggles? Was it the not being able to hang out with your mates and do what you wanted to do when you want to do it or was it did you feel like you had lost the capability to pursue goals? What were the specifics that you felt were the main struggles?
AARON WHITE: The most specific of my known struggle was being able to go out at a drop of a hat and go out with the boys. Go out and have a beer, go out and have a coffee, meet out with friends, go hang out in a mate’s place. These are you know that’s the thing that I was doing every single day or most days on my days off and things like that whereas now the responsibility of having to be home, having to make sure that things are washed you know? Simple task like that are just the most important things now.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, look at it as a tough transition and I think it’s really under rated. And the – and no one tells you about it, you know? But mind you, at the same time as I say that probably do tell you but you don’t know or because you don’t know what you’re about to experience. You just think, “Oh, it won’t be a problem, it won’t be a problem.” And then it comes and slams you right upside the head.
AARON WHITE: It does. And it’s put perfectly in some of the things you read is that everybody tells you, ”Oh, it’s fine you’ll just fit into it.” You’ll just swing into it and your body just and your mind goes, “Yeah, let’s swing into this, what do we do?” So there’s that hesitation at the same time I hues you just got to winged it if you haven’t really done it before.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, absolutely. Well there’s an interesting book out actually from Dr. Nick Carr who and I am just trying to remember the name of it. I’ll put it into the show notes or I went back to it quickly. I interviewed him a number of episodes ago but that episode hasn’t gone live yet but as we talked but it will prior to this one so, you’ll be able to go back on the show notes and find a Nick Carr episode and his book in there. But it effectively takes that position where and tells dads, brand new dads what to expect and what you should be doing. So, he’s filled that niche that we’ve all been looking for which is good. But I actually think there’s a gap there for a book or some sort of resource for dads going through the pre-natal period and what to expect right up to birth and things. Because you’ll know yourself and a lot of the dads out there listening will know that when the emergency lights go on and the waters break and you’re into it you arrive at the hospital and I don’t know if every dad’s experienced this but my experience was that you are the prick that put this poor woman in this situation. And why are you here, you’re a bastard. Effectively you know that’s – and they don’t want to know you so –
AARON WHITE: That’s exactly right. And it becomes all your fault.
ADAM BALDOCK: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. And you know and then I remember my – when our first born and Sharon unfortunately hadn’t cut her nails and she was holding on to my hands and I ended up with massive deep cuts in my hands and I guess she was digging the nails in and it was painful but it probably wasn’t anywhere near the pain that was going through. And the nurse was just going, “You are pathetic.” to me so you know you just going to have that.
AARON WHITE: Well I can tell you for sure with our first boy I got a bit of the history in doing volunteer work within the medical field but as soon as that big needle came out when then put that epidural in I was down like a socket …
ADAM BALDOCK: Really?
AARON WHITE: … lying on the floor. Oh yeah, I wake up to my mother in law laughing at me facer.
ADAM BALDOCK: Classic, classic. Good stuff. So tell us –
AARON WHITE: It does happen.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, yeah, What’s the voluntary work you do on the medical field?
AARON WHITE: So basically to go back a little bit I was a little bit of a wild child so to speak hanging out with a few undesirables.
ADAM BALDOCK: Now it all comes out.
AARON WHITE: Yeah, now it all comes out. So hanging out with a few undesirables and put my mother and father through hell basically for a while there. And then were out at a local park and I saw a St John Ambulance there doing their thing and for one reason or another I asked dad could I go and do it, go and join which I did. And then I spent 13 – 14 years with St John Ambulance. I won National First Aid competitions, I won an International First Aid competition and I just found this niche and I got dragged away from these undesirables. So I did work with them and then I worked with the community response team for Ambulance Victoria up in Craigieburn when we lived up there. So, a little bit of history in there and try to do my bit for the volunteer community as well.
ADAM BALDOCK: Wow, what a great story mate. And it’s amazing how it’s come around. You went away from it for a while into the finance sector and then you’ve come back into it.
AARON WHITE: Yeah, yeah, no like I worked for on the police side of things the Triple Zero here in Victoria and it’s – that’s still in that emergency field as such so, it’s quite good.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic. And let’s talk about that a bit more in a minute when we get into the balancing career and family because I am really interested in about that because I’ve heard it’s really tough gig being in the Triple 0 call centre and so forth so, we’ll talk about that a bit further. But before we go there and whilst were talking about the struggle stuff and before we move away from that, have you had your toughest dad moment yet? What’s been your toughest dad moment with Noah?
AARON WHITE: My toughest dad moment, I’d have to say my toughest moment is wanting to be there for everything. You know the swimming lessons, the going out to parties, not wanting to miss out on anything. But having to work at the same time and working shift work makes it quite tough to be able to do these things. Missing Christmases and things like that that would have to be one of my toughest moments with Noah. As well as going through his three-nager years as I often call it.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, three – I love it.
AARON WHITE: And he’s got the attitude of a teenager but he’s only three. It can be very testing at times and definitely one of my most difficult moment as a dad with Noah is not wanting to miss anything but having to and you know say like things like Christmas. Sometimes you got to – Christmas is got to come on the 23rd of December instead of the 25th or the other way around. So, definitely my biggest –
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, that does make it tough mate. And it’s a you’re not alone in that to extent. I think there’s store – a lot of people out there who do the shift work and probably be the same but that’s no – that’s not to take away from the toughness of it. And yeah, so I do have something else to add in there but I’m drawing a blank on it. So, but the – here no, sorry I’ve gone right astray so I had to cut that bit out.
AARON WHITE: That’s all right.
ADAM BALDOCK: But that’s all fine. So fantastic story, stories so far. Oh, I’ll start it again. Fantastic story so far, Aaron I’m loving what you’re having to tell us and there’s some great little diamonds in there that dads of the world will be picking up from so, but we’ll shift away from where we’re at the moment and it’s time to start looking at how we balanced our families as we go across. So let’s talk first about your beautiful wife and your relationship. How did you meet her and how do you balance your relationship now that you have children?
AARON WHITE: We met less than 10 years ago now through a mutual friend at their 21st birthday party. So we were young and our eyes met. She’s – I reckon I use done of the cheesiest pick-up lines known to man. I had a bit of the old amber courage in me when I dropped the line. But she hanged around so it couldn’t have been t hat bad.
ADAM BALDOCK: Come on, come on give us the line.
AARON WHITE: Uh, you might have got right into me. I told her that I was the barramundi catch of the day.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic.
AARON WHITE: Just as if she was reading it off a menu. So, she’s – that’s the line that I’ve used after a bit of amber courage. It wasn’t …
ADAM BALDOCK: I love it.
AARON WHITE: … my finest moment but it worked.
ADAM BALDOCK: Hey, it worked that’s the main thing.
AARON WHITE: It worked so yeah, we’ve been together 10 years now. We’ve bought our house; we’ve now got a growing family in the next couple of days. And then from thereon it’s just onwards and upwards. We have our times like every family does. The biggest thing that we make though is that we actually spend time together and without our son as well which can be really hard to do on occasions but we’re pretty lucky with our support network and our family network that he’ll go and have sleepovers at nannies or hell go and stay at a friend’s house so then we can just go out and just even simply have a dinner together.
ADAM BALDOCK: Nice, nice. And so is that the key you think to balancing your relationship is basically having that time to yourself?
AARON WHITE: Yeah, definitely the key is to have that break away and little things like allowing one or the other to have sleep in one day a week. A place where both of us getting up within depending on what hour he decides to wake up you know? But that is biggest key is get that time together.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic. Good work. So, we’ve talked about you balancing your relationship a little bit. But we’re now moving into the area that I think a lot of the dads would be interested in which is balancing your career and family. You’ve indicated that you work shifts which is tough enough and pre-recording you and I also talked about the fact that you doing a 12 – hour shifts which is even worse. However that seems to be balanced a little bit by the days on versus the days off and things like that. But talk to me about your career and about ESTA and how you balanced that with you family.
AARON WHITE: So I have been working with ESTA now for just on 13 years. It’s one of the most challenging jobs that I think anybody could ever face. You have your highs and your lows. And really you get yourself two sets of families. You got your work family because you spent so much time together, 12 hours is a long shift. And then I’ve got my family at home that I spend time with. To have those days off is really important you know just to look – for instance I mentioned before that not being to always get to the swimming lessons for instance. And then I look back and my wife walks to remind me as the role that she does that I get a lot of time off and I get to do a lot of the things that a lot of the guys can’t do during the week which can be atone for some people. So getting that balance has been very important and to be able to have the same amount of time off as what I do working makes a huge difference. In our lives to be able to balance that.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, except that it can be slightly skewed on the important days like Christmas as you mentioned earlier.
AARON WHITE: Disulfiram online Yeah, unfortunately that does roll around every now and again but we’ve learned to adjust to that. My wife is very, very understanding shift work which can also be very hard for the people to finding in partners is somebody understanding shift work. Unfortunately emergencies don’t stop during the night.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So let’s touch a bit on that because I am sure that dads are interested in the types of things that you have to deal with in your job. And then we’ll look at how how mitigate that away from your family time. So obviously you’re going to get some pretty distressing calls when you’re at work. You might get 100 calls a night and 99 of them are fine and then you get one up the tail-end which is an absolute disaster. So, tell me about the process in that and how there’s obviously some pretty robust system in place for risk management to start etc. that ESTA would have in place. Tell me about that entire process and how they help you ensure that you are damaged going to your family.
AARON WHITE: Yeah, we – you never know what calls you’re going to get next. That’s the biggest thing it’s a complete unknown. One minute you might be dealing with somebody’s whose come home to find their house broken into and then the next might be somebody who’s just witnessed a major car accident. With our organisation we have 24-hour care for our staff on call. We have our own staff members that you look after one another. It’s important that we identify these types of events that are major incidents and we work on them straight away in getting them put there and we talk about them and we debrief about them. We’re lucky enough to have some really good people working with our organisation that are really keen on helping us get through these types of things. So it’s unfortunately you got to leave some of it at the door before you come home to be with the family. You’ve got to sort of let it be water off the duck’s back so to speak. But there are times where it will get to you and it does get to you and it’s important that if I can come home and I can also talk to my wife about these things and get through it the best as I can.
ADAM BALDOCK: So you’re at work, you’re a supervisor correct?
AARON WHITE: Yeah, that’s right.
ADAM BALDOCK: So does that mean you’re on the phones or you’re more support for the people on the phones?
AARON WHITE: So I’m the support for the staff on the phones and the dispatches. So I oversee myself and I oversee the ones that will oversee the entire shift. And we keep our eyes out but at the same time we still do the phones, we still do the dispatching as well at times to maintain our skills so then our staff can come to us and say, “Well you do understand the role that I do.” They don’t come to us and say, ”Well what do you know you’re just the manager. You don’t understand what I do.” I do do what they do and I have done what they’ve done. And that’s the most integral part to it is that I do understand what they do on a daily basis.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, brilliant. So you’re in the office. I just want to tease this out a bit further because this is the area of interest and obviously my background comes from a risk management point of view and so I am always interested in how high risk organization such as ESTA managed their people and make sure they don’t damage them for family environment. So take me through a pretty dramatic core comes through and you take it let’s assume you take it and so well then you managed to get through it etcetera and get the services dispatched and so forth. What happens then? Are you then taken away for a debrief? Is there a compulsory debrief at the end?
AARON WHITE: We don’t have a – depending on the situation depends on whether make it a compulsory debrief or we don’t. The most important thing is that as soon as it’s done and it’s recognized that an event like that has occurred or there’s somebody suffering from a call which will be picked up on very, very quickly by people sitting around them or just the fact that it is a job of interest and were made aware of it straight away. It’s – we identify that call taker involved all call takers involved if it’s been multiple calls as well as the dispatchers and we do – we’ll debrief with them as quickly as we can. And we’ll speak to them about it and go through it. Ensure that they’re okay about it. Take them away from the situation, take them off the phones, take them off the dispatch let them go and have a breather. You know if they’re a smoker let them go and have a cigarette. If they just want to have time out for five minutes let them have time out for five minutes and then talk about it. It’s important that we recognise it and we work with it to ensure that we don’t have any long-lasting effects of events hanging around.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah. And obviously there be an EAP service I can access it at any time?
AARON WHITE: That’s correct 24/7 we have an EAP service. They’ll come in at the drop of the hat. We also have them come in on a regular basis and to just chat to the staff in general about nothing in particular just to let them know that they’re there to be contacted should anything happen. But we have a fantastic service that we utilised and they’re on call 24/7.
ADAM BALDOCK: Brilliant. Now let’s swing it back to you and then we’ll move through the rest of the interview but – so what about yourself Aaron, how do you managed yourself to ensure that your job doesn’t affect your home life? What sort of trick are you doing for yourself?
AARON WHITE: My little tricks is to basically ensure that I speak to people about it and the people that I trust in and care for as well, so my family, my dad. And believe it or not my dad is my biggest sounding board going around.
ADAM BALDOCK: Great.
AARON WHITE: He listens to me. He gives me all the dad advice that all dads you know give you. And with my friends I’ve got some really close friends that I have made over the 13 years there. And I’ve also got a friend who understands my job because he works on the other side of the radio so he understands what I go through and we often bounce things off each other as well. It’s important that I open up and talk about it as soon as I can. That’s my biggest thing is to ensure that I do that rather than bottling it up and. I tried that once and it wasn’t very successful.
ADAM BALDOCK: Brilliant. Good mate, good. I’m pleased that you’ve got some good outlets and I’m pleased to hear that you couldn’t have said that in a better environment but your dad’s there so, great fantastic. All right, now we’ll move away from that and thanks for being so candid in the air and it’s an interesting environment that your mate and I could see why you had to stay there for 13 years because it would be just a changing and evolving profession so, fantastic. So let’s move on to your biggest worry about your children. Tell us about that what’s your concern and how are you mitigating them.
AARON WHITE: My biggest worry is for my kids is them going out with undesirables. Exactly that I went when I was younger. I dropped in with a few undesirables and I had no respect for my parents. I was just a teenager who thought that he ruled the world and nobody could touch me. I just have these big worry that I hope I can – my son’s wont; go that way. The biggest thing that I do now is ensure the simple things such as manners. Asking to leave the table, please, thank you’s just showing that respect to everybody that my son meets, to have that self respect for himself. I didn’t have much respect for myself at times knowing the person that was becoming and just to have that respect is something that as a way as a partnership my wife and I are instilling into Noah now and want to instil him to be better for the future. That’s my biggest worry is that he goes a little bit off the rails and it is my biggest worry like any parent I guess.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, yeah it does come up fairly frequently the whole friendship and undesirable request. But you know you’re probably best placed out of all of the dads that I’ve spoken to to identify that and help your child through it. So it should be a walk in the park for you Aaron, no problems.
AARON WHITE: Yeah, I’d like to think so Adam but it still plays on the mind.
ADAM BALDOCK: Absolutely mate, absolutely. And the thing about it it’s not as easy. It’s all good a theory but it’s not as easy and practical so, you know?
AARON WHITE: Correct.
ADAM BALDOCK: But the other side of that I don’t know whether you’re reader or not but I’ve just finished Raising Boys by Steve Biddulph and he talks in there about the three phases that boys go through which is the 0-6 is primarily mums, with mums or mummy’s boy, 6-14 is us. We get a good six year period there to try and influence and then they need a whole of other male mentors during the 13 years and older age group right through through to early adulthood. So, I think the good thing is Noah’s only three and your new one’s just brand new or about to be brand new so you’ve got a bit of time which is fantastic. I got my five-year old boy and after reading that book I just go, “Oh, no my God” and all the things that were about to go through. You and I haven’t lived it yet.
AARON WHITE: It’s funny that you mentioned that book I have not long since finished reading it myself and I find it quite comparable to my life now and it’s just that human touch about of that book and I think it’s a great book for anybody to read.
ADAM BALDOCK: Absolutely. There was one thing I felt about which disappointed me slightly which was around – I felt it was quite an apologetic book. It was almost – there was an air of apology for being a man throughout it. Maybe it was just my read but yeah, that disappointed me a little bit because I don’t think we should be apologising for being men. We contribute and we do what our best to try and provide for the family and work from there so you know all good. So, last question before we head in to the power dad’s round. If you could change one thing in your life Aaron to help you be a better dad, what would you do?
AARON WHITE: Now I had stood over these I reckon for about two or three years.
ADAM BALDOCK: Excellent.
AARON WHITE: Trying to find something and it came down to one simple thing, my wife asking me to go and get the washing out of the washing machine. My absolute bad habits off being careful by mum not having to do my own washing, my wife you know simple things like cleaning around the house. Yes I do my bit but nothing to the extent that my wife does. She provides the perfect house for us. I just wish that I could be better with that and I am getting much better with that now that we have my sound around. But I just wished that I have taken that up a little but earlier in life and to have some of those habits instilled in me that make sure that everything is cleaned up after yourself, don’t let the dishes pile up in the sink. Do the washing, don’t ask to do the washing just do it. So, yeah, it just came from my wife asking me to go get the washing mate, so I thought about it and I thought, “You know what, there’s probably dad’s out there blokes out there that want to change things like their health or money and things like that.” I’ve always gone with the KISS principle and this one is pretty simple, I should have just been a better at least some of the household habits mate.
ADAM BALDOCK: Another one with a good answer mate. Yeah, I think a lot of us dads can probably take a leaf out of that. And the other one you need to probably do is go and listen to episodes our [unclear – 00:35:56] that I think it is, Rob Jaskiewicz who’s – his one is is do more than you have to and he talks of exactly about that, about doing more than you actually have to around the house and that keeps the wife happy. And as they say, “happy wife, happy life.” so yeah, good stuff.
AARON WHITE: Definitely.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic mate and great storytelling throughout and I really appreciate it all you’re doing well. So let’s get into the power dad’s round. It’s six quick questions, short answers. Are you ready?
AARON WHITE: I’m ready, let’s do it.
ADAM BALDOCK: Favourite dad toy and why?
AARON WHITE: Anything technology so then I can tinker with it and be a geek.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic, okay. Tool, website or book that you would recommend?
AARON WHITE: Raising Boys as we talked about earlier. I think it’s quite relatable to me and has that bit of a lot of side to it as well.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, yeah, brilliant. And there are some great stories through there and I particularly like the three right at the end about the whole celebrating the rite of passage, yeah fantastic. I highly recommend it for all dads of the world. How do you ensure time for yourself?
AARON WHITE: Driving. Driving places, exploring that’s my outlet is driving. I love nothing more than getting in the car and just driving.
ADAM BALDOCK: Brilliant. Put the tunes on.
AARON WHITE: Put the tunes and just relax.
ADAM BALDOCK: And what’s the tunes usually?
AARON WHITE: Oh, mate there’s a bit of everything in there. I’m bit of a rock man but most of all the Foo Fighters.
ADAM BALDOCK: Okay, fantastic, fantastic. I see he fell off the stage the stage the other day Dave Grohl and broke his leg in the middle concert.
AARON WHITE: If you ever want to see a dad that’s got power about him but still remembers that he’s a dad and if anybody watches the DVD that they made his kids come in while he was recording and he just drops everything and goes and throws them in the pool and plays with them in the pool.
ADAM BALDOCK: Fantastic.
AARON WHITE: A real inspiration.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah, brilliant, brilliant. Yeah, I wish I could do that a bit more often. So number four, what innovative trick do you use to help discipline your child?
AARON WHITE: Distraction and a play on words.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yup, fantastic.
AARON WHITE: Love nothing more.
ADAM BALDOCK: Play on words three. It be hard press to connect with the play on words but uh –
AARON WHITE: Uh, he’s pretty chatty he knows, he knows.
ADAM BALDOCK: Yeah they can pick on terms and things, fantastic. So distraction is a good one though. That comes up a fair bit actually. Do you and your lovely have a family tradition that you maintain?
AARON WHITE: We do. We- every year we go to the Christmas windows admiring the city.
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AARON WHITE: And we also go and visit all the Christmas lights around the area and put up our own Christmas lights every year. It’s one thing that we’ve maintained since we’ve been together.
ADAM BALDOCK: Good on you, fantastic. Keep it up. And last question on the power dad’s round, what one personal habit do you believe helps you be a better dad?
AARON WHITE: Being the joker.
ADAM BALDOCK: I thought you might say that actually. So earlier on the and that’s good, that’s brilliant, that’s what we got to be so good work. So, power dad’s round done but we’re now at my favourite question and I love this one because I love hearing what the answers are. But the legacy question. and what’s the one thing that you would tell your children to help them succeed in life?
AARON WHITE: Be true to yourself. Forget about everyone else just be true to yourself and be happy.
ADAM BALDOCK: Nice one. And a nice way to enter into the close for the show. So, Aaron, thank you for being my guest today. It’s been a blast.
AARON WHITE: Thanks very much.
ADAM BALDOCK: I know fantastic. It’s been a blast talking family matters with you and I am sure the dads of the world have got a lot out of it. Before we say goodbye, give us one last tip for the dads and then we’ll close out.
AARON WHITE: Just embrace the ride. It’s like a rollercoaster. You’ll always come off it smiling even if you do have a little bit of puke.
ADAM BALDOCK: I love it. Brilliant one Aaron. Great finish. So thanks again for joining me today on Fired Up Dads. Dads of the world, I hope you enjoyed today’s show. Head on over to firedupdads.com and get all the resources available there. There’s links to the books recommended and the other resources that Aaron has mentioned. Aaron thank you so much for spending some time with me today. Good luck with the new-born and good luck with the career.
AARON WHITE: Thanks very much Adam. I appreciate everything mate, take care.
ADAM BALDOCK: Good one. It’s been great spending time with the dads of the world today and Aaron White. Have the best day ever and we’ll see you next time On Fired Up Dads.